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I am a little impressed with what I’ve done. I usually try and get it all done the day before I go back so now I have tomorrow free except for my psych appointment. @Jynx 

 

Yeah.. I’m not really comfortable at the moment. I’m not sure of myself. I think I need some help with feeling ok being on here. I’ve lost a little faith in some others. 

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@Captain24 ooh good planning, no one wants to be doing chores after a psych appt!! 

 

Yeah of course darlin! The actual building of the plan will probs need to wait till Wednesday when tyme is on, cos I don't have the specs or anything. But we can chat about it, get some contemplations going and see what we can come up with. 

 

Hmmm I guess first off, what are some of the fears (or what is your internal narrative like) around posting? As in, what thoughts will stay your hand from pressing post?

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Yeah, I have a lot to discuss including the planning I’ve done. Hopefully I can be honest enough. It’s only Telehealth but I have been doing ok with it. The majority of my appointments are Telehealth. The only way I could get an amazing psych.

 

I feel like I can’t really say how I feel. @Jynx. I feel like I have to sound like I’m doing well. It’s really only one that I have the biggest problem with but I just don’t feel confident on here any more. Right now it feels like it’s just you and tyme that I feel safe with. I needed support and never got any just what I had written that was wrong. 

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I'm sorry you had that experience @Captain24 that's really hard. I think I can see where you're coming from - since we have some firm guidelines around posting about things like SI and SH, and your posts have been removed on a number of occasions, the 'message' that you're getting from this is that you can't be sad here, you need to always be perky and chipper (note - I put the word message in quotes not because you are wrong for comprehending it this way, but because it's not something anyone has communicated to you directly). 

 

Or to put it another way, your post gets removed because it could potentially be unsafe for other community members to read (NOT because you need to stop talking about it or pretend everything is okay when it's not), your brain draws the conclusion that it is being removed because you're not allowed to be feeling like this. And it's totally okay that your brain has that response!!

 

We've all grown up socialised by both the media and the education system to operate within a punitive justice paradigm - i.e. when someone makes a mistake, it is seen as a reason to punish them rather than an opportunity for growth. The result of this pervasive paradigm is that all of us are sooooo conditioned to believe that things like getting a post removed is us 'getting in trouble' - as in, the automatically conditioned response to seeing your post has been removed is to feel like the mods are saying "You've been naughty and need to feel ashamed of your actions!!" 

 

We don't like that. We do NOT, and have NEVER engaged in 'punishing' members - for instance, despite the way it might leave a person feeling, we don't implement account pauses to punish people!! It is always about protecting and balancing the needs of the community, and ensuring that someone who is in crisis is actually accessing supports that will be sufficiently resourced to help them through that kind of experience. 

 

The punitive justice paradigm also means that we've been conditioned to feel like ANY kind of inconvenience or disruption we cause to another person is a reflection of us being crappy humans, with absolutely no room for context or nuance in our understanding of a situation. So making a mistake often results in us getting the message that it makes us a bad person, rather than just, you know, human. 

 

This feeling, that you're being punished/targeted/pushed out, is probably a very instinctual gut reaction too hun, so pls don't blame yourself or shame yourself for the way it has left you feeling. Even if your wise-mind/logic-brain can understand what I've said here, your instinctual/survival brain may still have that gut-reaction feeling that says you are unwelcome. It's having that reaction because of a lifetime of social conditioning, NOT because it is the truth. 

 

Hmm ok now I am thinking about the more practical side of things.... but I don't want to make this post TOO long!! So I will share em in a smidge, dinner time now!! 😋

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So you’re saying it’s my fault? @Jynx. I get things in the past but I haven’t posted anything worse than anyone else. That’s where it feels personal.

If I make people unsafe then maybe it’s the best that I leave. Other members are more important.

 

If I’m not worthy enough to be here then just tell me. 

Yes that has left me feeling like a bad member. I can see that I’m difficult to deal with. 

I should give up. 

 

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@Captain24 I am hearing that this has left you feeling very upset hun, so I am actually hesitant to try to unpack anything with you further, because I don't want to make you feel worse!! 

 

However, you have actually misinterpreted pretty much everything I've tried to explain. Not your fault, text-based communication issue!! 

 

Do you want to try to keep trying to reach an understanding, or wait till Wednesday so we can figure it out with tyme?

 

Regardless, I need you to know ~

- It is not your fault. Nor would I ever think it was. 

- You do not 'make' people unsafe (the situation and circumstances - including the other person's - may result in someone feeling unsafe, but that is not because YOU made them that way)

- You are just as important as any other member. 

- You are more than worthy enough to be here, and have every right to be

- You're not a bad member, and you're not difficult to work with (trust me... this is NOT a platitude... I have worked with some incredibly difficult people and you've never been one of them).

 

PLEASE DON'T GIVE UP!!!

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I don’t get home from work until 8 on Wednesday night, same Thursday and then nightshift for Friday, Saturday and Sunday. So I guess there really isn’t any time. @Jynx 

 

Text is hard. I actually took it pretty hard. 

We can try to figure it out. I can’t feel any worse than I do right now. 

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@Captain24 I know you did hun, and it truly causes me great sorrow to know my words resulted in hurt for you. I tell you what, I am just gonna mosey us over to email correspondence for a smidge so we can work on some repairs together. If you want to of course!! If you need to tap out and get some space from me and from the situation, that's so ok - just let me know. Email will be incoming, keep an eye out 💜

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Did you forget @Jynx or just busy

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@Captain24 nah I got caught up editing... time blindness and hyperfocus strike again!! Also #sorrynotsorry you just got a VERY long email lol. I'm off!! Nighty night darlin 💜